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    February 25, 2014
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comedian? >> we wouldn't have mistaken him for justin timberlake, who's put his finger on how to handle a heckler. >> that's also the weirdest moment i've ever had with a crowd. thank you. >> reporter: jeanne moos, cnn. >> he does deserve a thumb up for his finger. >> reporter: new york. >> way to go, justin kanye? anderson starts now. good evening, everyone. tonight new calls to stop the bill that some say protects religious freedom, others call a license to discriminate in the state of arizona. two former republican presidential candidates weigh in on opposite sides. supporters of the bill are avoiding us. so are the special interest groups who admit they wrote the bill but won't come on this program to defend it. also tonight a 360 exclusive this, young boy is at the center of a medical miss terrorist his battle with a crippling disease and the race to identify the bug that is causing it and spreading fear throughout the most populated state in the country. also tonight, is amanda knocks's ex-boyfriend turning on her? what he's saying she did shortly
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after the murder they were both convicted of raising eyebrows tonight. we begin with the growing backlash to arizona sb 1062 bill. former governor mitt romney advising against it. he tweets "veto of sb 1062 are right." he's again it so are senator john mccain and jeff flake. so do several businesses doing business in the state. with the super bowl coming to phoenix fem next year, governor brewer has the nfl to worry about. mission guess marquez joins us with the the latest. is there a feeling, miguel, that the business interests that seem to be like up against the bill are having a big influence? >> reporter: this is probably having the biggest influence on this. the governor has heard from every business group, every business in this state especially the big businesses. the biggest concern for them is that the uncertainty that this bill inserts into their workforce, saying that employees who have a deep religious belief
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they believe could possibly sue their own employer for offers health care plans that offer things like abortion services or any sort of reproductive services. the business community really going after this thing, applying an enormous amount of pressure on the governor, anderson. >> governor brewer is now back in her state. she was attending a governor's conference. any idea when she's going to make a decision? >> reporter: it sounds like tomorrow she will take the day to talk to legislators, business leaders, gay groups, those who are supporting sb 1062 to get the full breadth of everything that's happened while she's been gone in washington. we expect on thursday she will come up with a veto of this is everything we are hearing. she will take that opportunity in order to talk about the things that have been said about arizona during this debate nation-wide. >> miguel marquez, appreciate it. ever since this erupted into a national controversy, supporters of the bill have been somewhat reluctant to come on the program to defend it. last night though one supporter
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did. state senator al melvin came to the program. >> if somebody is fired, a boss doesn't like some guy on their staff or woman on their staff because they're gay or hlesbian and they're fired for that, because there is no protection for sexual discrimination is there protection? >> you're trying to distort a religious freedom bill. [ overlapping speakers ] >> sir you're running for for governor of the state of arizona. you can't go on the record and say that would be discrimination? >> i don't know of any case like you just cited. >> i want to give you one more opportunity. i think this is going to come back on you. if somebody anywhere in america is fired because they're gay or lesbian and that's the reason they're fired, just because somebody doesn't like them and it's legal in that state, is
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that discrimination? >> i'm against all discrimination, and i want maximum religious freedom, sir. >> okay. you can't answer that question, then. i gave you the opportunity. >> that's my answer to you. >> his response wasn't really an answer. he's always welcome back on the program. however his colleagues have been somewhat more reluctant. we sent 360's randi kaye to phoenix. randi, what have you found out there? >> reporter: anderson, it's certainly been a challenge trying to get anybody to talk to us here at the state capitol. there has been so much backlash as you can tell here by the protesters. nobody wants to touch this thing. but take a look at what happened today when i tried to get some lawmakers to talk to me about b 1062. >> no comment right now. we're waiting for the governor. >> we came all the way from new york to talk to you. >> we have great weather and spring baseball is almost here. you're welcome to be here as
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long as you want. >> i hear you're the man who gives great quotes. we're going to caucus, too. >> no. hold on. >> give me 30 seconds. >> my 1:00 is here. i'm very very late. >> 30 seconds. just tell me why you -- please, sir. >> i'll catch you on my way out. can i ask you why you support it? >> no thanks. >> what do you make of all the attention it's getting? >> i think there's a lot of misunderstanding. >> do you want to explain, set the record straight? >> i don't. thank you for offering. >> you have nothing to say? >> it's interesting no one wants to talk to people who are in support. you grabbed a minute with senator steve yarbrough who authored the bill. what does he say? >> reporter: we asked him if he had any plans to try and talk with governor brewer or meet with governor brewer before she made her decision. this is what he told me. >> the indications that we're getting is that the governor may very well veto this. is there anything you want to
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say to the governor? >> well, the governor i consider a dear friend of mine. i will take the opportunity to communicate with the governor when she gets home. and i'll try to persuade her to sign the bill. >> what will you tell her? >> i will tell her basically what the bill does, what the bill doesn't do, and that it has been extraordinarily distorted as to the whole struggle that it's been made up to be when it's really not about that at all. will i be successful? who knows. >> the senator told me he doesn't expect governor brewer to wait until friday or saturday to make her decision. he thinks she's make that decision quickly after meeting with him as early as tomorrow. i want to share with you one more exchange that i had earlier today with representative sunny barelli. we finally were able to talk after he stopped speed walking. >> you already declined an answer and i haven't even asked you a question. can you tell me why we need sb
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1062 here in arizona? >> it strengthens existing laws. >> can you stop for one second so we're not out of breath? >> i'm very busy. >> just one quick question. a straight answer on why you need it here. what does it change? >> you know, the sword swings both ways. okay. what about this scenario. you have a gay person that owns a printing shop. okay? and somebody from the west borough baptist church comes in there and demands that they print something the printer doesn't agree with. should that group, that religious group, demand that print shop print that thing? does not the business owner have a right to say get out i'm not going to print that it's offensive? >> and with that he hustled right back inside the back entrance of the capitol building. anderson. >> appreciate it. thanks very much. let's dig deeper on the legal
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question that the state congressman barelli raised. what about that, the congressman said west bror borough baptist church goes to a gay-owned business in arizona, demands that they print up some leaflets for a demonstration. >> yeah. so what's interesting about that is that first of all it's the gay printer who's holding himself out to the public sphere. the presumption is that he would actually have to print those leaflets. and if not because religion is a protected group there could be a reo religious claim brought against them. gay people are not protected from any kind of discrimination by the religious print. >> in that analogy, the gay group is not a religious group so if this law passed they couldn't argue on religious grounds that they wouldn't print up this stuff for the west borough baptist church. >> exactly right. what's really striking about this, nobody except for at the very end i thought it was really telling he used the example of gay people.
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nobody is willing either tonight or in your prior interviews to say the word "gay" in defending bill. an entire interview they tap danced around the word "gay." if you go to yarbrough, he was up front about saying the situation in new mexico where a photographer was forced to take photographs of same sex couples commitment ceremony or wedding. >> she was sued because she wouldn't in new mexico which violates the state statutes in new mexico protecting discrimination against people based on sexual orientation. but you're right. early on a lot of lawmakers were pointing to that what happened in new mexico as the reason. you don't hear people now pointing to that anymore. >> exactly. with regard to we weren't on notice about this or this has been horribly distorted, the legislative hearing is online. so i'd really encourage people to just go to -- just google arizona legislature and then you can type in sb 1062 and then watch the proceedings.
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and time after tyime people are raising this will have anti--gay consequences. >> you're saying if they listened to the proceedings they would have known. >> this came up over and owe again. democratic senator after democratic senator talked about the negative effects it would have on gay and lesbians. >> congressman melvin says he knows of no discrimination in the state of arizona, that a, he could come up with no specific example of discrimination against religious beliefs or religious groups this law ill designed to protect but there's no discrimination at all in the state. let's play this. >> with all due respect, sir, i don't know of anybody in arizona that would discriminate against a fellow human being. no no christian or jew that i know of. >> really? discrimination doesn't exist in
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arizona? >> well, maybe you ought to move to arizona. we're more people friendly here, apparently. >> it's inquestionable. no discrimination based on race, disability, gender, sexual orientation. sounds like an incredible place. what do you make of that? >> like a paradise thinly disguised. i watched that exchange. he actually invited you afterwards or in that clip as well to come take your bags and move to arizona. >> look, i like arizona. it's a great state. >> as do i. it's a wonderful state. but i thought this is not a theoretical question, empirical question. i dug into the eoc data to see how many charges have been filed. >> equal employment opportunity commission. >> yes. there's hard data here about 2013. in 2013 there are over 3,000 discrimination complaints filed in arizona. >> in just one year. >> just in one year. >> 3,000. >> yes. and in new york it was slightly higher in new york. but if you think about the fact that new york state has three times the population of arizona,
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6.5 and 19.5 million respectively, i think you should stay here, anderson. >> fascinating. appreciate you doing the research on it. whether it's the threat of losing business for the state, condemnation of fellow republicans, sincere personal regret or all the above, as we mentioned a number of arizona lawmakers are republicans who voted for sb 1062 are now saying they wish they voted against it. they're going to tell the governor to vote against it. state senator steve pierce is one of them. i spoke to him earlier today. >> senator, you now regret your vote for this bill. you plan to talk to governor brewer about it. why do you regret your vote? >> it went through really quick. no one really had anything telling me don't do it. several of us talked. we thought, this isn't good. it's not good for the state. but no one had said anything. and we thought well, we'll vote for it. had no idea it would be a
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reaction like this or we'd do what we've done. but we made a mistake. and the good thing about it is now we know how to fix the mistake. and that's what we're trying to do. >> i got to say it's rare for any person in public life, particularly political life, to say that they actually made a mistake and to be public about that. so i think that takes a certain amount of courage to actually come forward and say look, i made a mistake. i regret this. it's interesting your description of the process. i know one of your republican colleagues who's also against the bill says that you were uncomfortable with the bill last week. what about it made you uncomfortabl uncomfortable? >> you know, it was do we really need it. you're getting into something when you get into religious freedom we're getting into a pretty sticky wicket. what it would do and how it would do it could be interpresentinte could be
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interpreted different ways. i didn't interpret it would affect everyone like it has. we just didn't do that. and like friday morning we started seeing all the e-mails and everything show up on our desks and constituents calling and businesses started calling. that's when it really went viral and took off and took a life of its own. it's too bad for arizona. i just hope the governor gets back here and she vetoes it. she said last night she was going to do the right thing. >> i saw. so debate that occurred when the larger body was debating this. and there were a number of democratic senators who were saying about the negative impact this would have on the gay community. did you hear those arguments? what did you think of them at the time? >> in the debate, yes, i heard all that. in the debate you hear arguments every day about this one's wrong, that one's wrong. and i believed that kind of fed into my position. that now when i look back on it,
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they were right in what they were saying. i have friends in the democratic caucus that were warning me. but that was only the democratic caucus was saying something. no one came to me beforehand. >> so you actually believe, looking at it now, thought would discriminate against some people in arizona. >> it has that ability, yes, it could be. i've talked with a lot of people about it and they're going, well, what about going in the restaurant, what about doing this. well, the way it was described originally was it's like no shirt no shoes no service in a restaurant. well, it could be interpreted differently. and it's too vague. and to say who's it going to affect. i can see now where people are concerned about it. >> well, we'll know certainly by the end of the week. senator pierce, i really appreciate your time. it's good talking to you. >> let us know what you think. you can follow me on twitter @andersoncooper using
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bill. >> this bill is advocating for basic freedom. >> it's a very narrowly tailored bill to protect people's religious freedoms. >> there is a kind of talking point quality to those words. it goes far beyond that, though. it extends to the language in similar legislation on the table in states across the country. here's the meat of 1062 in arizona. "exercise of religion means the practice of or observance of religion, including the ability to act or refusal to act in a manner substantially motivated by a religious belief whether or not the exercise is compulsory or central to a larger system of religious belief." here is hb 376 in ohio. "exercise of religion means the practice or observance of religion. it includes but is not limited to the ability to act or the refusal to act in a manner that is substantially motivated by one's sincerely held religious
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belief." sb 1062 and hb 376 and legislation in other states all share the same legal genetic code traceable back to a number of christian conservative special interest groups in the case of 1062, an outfit called the center for arizona policy, another called the alliance defending freedom didn't just push for the bill they also helped write for the bill much that's what representatives from both organizations tell us. neither organization would come on the program which is kind of hard to understand why. it's not like they're keeping it a secret. during the testimony surrounding 1062, an adf representative was perfectly open about his organization's push for religious restorations acts nation-wide. >> we have been heavily involved with both federal and state rfra. we provide testimony across the nation to states that are considering rfra or considering amending rfra such as arizona is considering with senate bill -- >> so keeping them honest, there's nothing illegal or improper about advocating a position. everybody does that or providing
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legal guidance and advice or ghost writing services to lawmakers who might not have the expertise or experience in crafting legislation that will stand up to legal scrutiny. the question is why keep it a secret? that's the thing we can't quite understand. more now on fallout with my conversation last night with arizona senator al melvin. we got into religious basis behind the bill from former presidential candidate herman cain linked to it on his face book page." anderson cooper is either completely ignorant about this man's bill and about the teachings of jesus or he is just plain lying. what a disgraceful rant this is. you can go there, judge for yourself. as for the role in religion, there are a lot of different interpretations to the bible, many different perspectives. tonight we're joined by a leading cleric in the state of arizona, the most reverend roy mendez of the episcopal church
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in phoenix. >> as some people's faith are supporting this bill on religious grounds you're opposing the bill on religious grounds. why? >> well, we feel that this bill actually flies directly in the state the fate of our religion. we believe to love your neighbor as yourself. this bill is seeking to under a guise of religious freedom, it's seeking to give people license to discriminate. that doesn't love your neighbor as yourself. >> but why should somebody -- supporters of the bill say why should somebody of strong religious conviction be forced to interact or work for somebody who they disagree with on religious grounds. why should somebody of strong religious faith who is opposed to homosexuality have to interact or work with somebody who's gay or lesbian if they feel doing so goes against their faith.
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>> well, we believe that we are to seek and serve christ in all people, loving our neighbor as ourself. what we're also supposed to do is to respect the dignity of every human being. we offer every single person we know, whether they are from our religion, a different religion, a different race, a different sexual orientation, we owe them our dignity and respect. we make that promise at the time that we're baptized, and we need to live as fully into it as we can. >> i talked to a state senator who supports the bill last night who said that he believes that christianity, religion, is under attack in the united states. do you believe in arizona that christianity is under attack? do you see examples of that? >> i saw that interview, actually. and no, i do not see any evidence whatsoever that christianity or any other religion for that matter is under attack. we are blessed in this country that since from 1783 when the first amendment was enacted,
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we're blessed for the fact that we have freedom of religion written into our bill of rights and our constitution. this has been something that has been over 200 years implemented in this country. and to now have a knee jerk reaction to write a new law ensuring religious freedom, i think it's a bit short-sighted. because what we have currently works. and religion in this country thrives. >> and you're saying free do. of religion in the state of arizona is already protected under existing laws, both federal and state. >> absolutely. and the reality is that many people of many different faiths practice their religion freely here in the state of arizona. there is no need for additional laws. >> what do you say to somebody who says well look why should a wedding photographer be sued because they don't want to be associated with a gay wedding? they don't want to be doing something that promotes a same-sex marriage based on their
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faith? >> the reality is that many people do business with many people whom they don't know all that well. but from a faith perspective, again i go back to we are to proclaim god's love and to treat everyone with the utmost dignity and respect. because if we can do that, we can recognize god in the presence of other people, even people we don't know. and we can see a presence of love within them. >> and yet the supporters say this isn't about discrimination, this is about stopping discrimination against people of faith. but you say clearly discrimination is at the core of this. >> i think that the intent of the law is to allow people to discriminate, yes, i do. and that's why i'm opposed to it. >> are you hopeful that governor brewer will veto in? >> i'm hopeful that governor brewer will veto sb 1062. i would like to hope that other people who may have voted for it as legislators are now against
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it. >> dean troy mendez, i appreciate your time, thank you. >> thank you very much. as always you can find more on the story and others at cnn.com. if you want to check out that whole interview with the senator from last night that's at our web site, ac360.com. tonight dick cheney rips into president obama over proposed defense cuts. what do the numbers really show? true politics tonight. a mysterious polio-like illness striking kids in california leaving some paralyzed. doctors are stumped, parents are terrified. dr. sanjay gupta joins me straight ahe. ing. an expert ford technician knows your car's health depends on a full, complete checkup. the works. because when it comes to feeling safe behind the wheel, going the distance and saving at the pump you want it all. get our multi-point inspection with a a synthetic blend oil change, tire rotation, brake inspection and more for $29.95 or less.
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defense secretary chuck hagel was on the road today visiting two military bases where he made his case for steep cuts to the armed forces. under the proposed budget he unveiled yesterday, the army would shrink to its lowest troop level in nearly 75 years. 9 the a 10 wart hog plane would be retired. his plans spark add predictable war of words. former vice president dick cheney fired these shots. >> i've obviously not been a strong supporter of barack obama, but this really is over the top. it does enormous long term damage to our military. they act as though it's like highway spending. you can turn it on or off. the fact of the matter is he's having a huge impact on the
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ability for future presidents to respond to crisises that might arise. he'd much rather spend the money on food stamps than on a strong military or support for our troops. >> over the last 24 hours, the alleged dangers the proposed cuts become a talk point on a lot of conservative blogs and television obviously. >> and we start with a fox news alert. defense secretary chuck hagel plans to shrink the military to preworld war ii levels. >> the administration is without question seriously compromising our security, our strategic flexibility. >> i think these cuts are too draconian. >> they don't want to get entangled in another war which no one wants. but we don't get to predict what the the next battlefield will look like. >> what the president has tried to do, the budgets that they send up to us is lay this all on the backs of our military. >> officials maintain that it is needed, but could our country's
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security be compromised? >> all this may sound familiar. mitt romney made the same arguments during his presidential campaign slamming president obama's position on the trail and in debates as well. >> this in my view is the highest responsibility of the president of the united states, which is to maintain the safety of the american people. and i will not cut our military budget by $1 trillion, which is the combination of the budget cuts that the president has as well as a sequestration cuts. that in my view is making our future less certain and less secure. >> i think governor romney maybe hasn't spent enough time looking at how our military works. you mentioned the navy, for example. we have fewer ships than we did in 1916. well, governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets. because the nature of our military has changed. we have these things called aircraft carriers where planes land on them. ship that is go underwater, nuclear sub marines. so the question is not a game of battle ship where we're counting ships, it's what are our capabilities. >> so the question is what's
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really going on. what do the numbers actually show? cnn's chief national security correspondent jim sciutto is here. let's cut through the noise, the politics and spin. what are we talking about in terms of cuts to the military? break it down. >> reporter: you look at the numbers. the current budget is basically halfway between what the pentagon wanted and the more draconian cuts that came during sequestration. the real headline number is reducing the size of the army from a peak during those two wars in afghanistan and iraq from 570,000 to 450,000. cutting the wart hog designed to attack soviet tanks, also cutting benefits such as housing allowances for soldiers, subsidies to stores on military bases. some of these are politically sensitive things. but as always the military is trying to make a balance of priorities with the numbers that they've been given. >> so in terms of the cuts, obviously the things like housing allowance, that's going to affect the livelihood, the lifestyle of soldiers which is obviously an incredibly important thing and marines and sailors and others. in terms of the danger, could
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these cuts endanger americans both at home and abroad? is there truth to that? >> reporter: this is the question. i've talked to senior military officials who question the cuts. but certainly in less caustic terms than the vice president. i spoke to one senior official in the army who was uncomfortable with a fighting force of 450,000. wanted a figure closer to 480,000. that's not a dramatic difference but they talk about challenges to readiness and training, whole debate about whether you can fight two wars simultaneously or fight within and hold the other to win that one. as for safety, though, when you speak to administration officials they push back very hard. listen to defense secretary chuck hagel today how he pushed back on this question. >> i as secretary of defense couldn't recommend to the president any option nor would any president make a decision to send anyone to war if there was any doubt that our men and women were not ready. we would fail you, we would fail our country. i can't do that. i won't do that.
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>> but this does make fighting two wars simultaneously very very difficult, if not impossible, right? >> reporter: here's what the administration will say. their argument is this is the first budget in more than a decade with the country not on a war footing, right? where we pulled out of iraq, we were drawing down dramatically in afghanistan. and that requires a less giant military. but for sure it's got to affect capability over time. i mean, the other big challenge that the military has is the same challenge that every government institution and company has, it's got an aging personnel and that's costly. as someone in the army told me today, 43% of the military budget goes to personnel. by 2020 without changes it will be 68%. that's a lot of retiring, aging, injured soldiers and marines and sailors. and what they'll say is listen we got to find some space in there. we have to cut both side, right? because otherwise the military will have to cut even more
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capability. they're struggling with this. they know it's going to change their capability. but i can't say honestly i've talked to any military official who tells me that my life or your life is going to be in danger as a result of this. but they do say less capability. the question is how much less. this is really the start of a budget debate. this is really an opening gambit in a battle here. >> the other question does it put the lives of our troops in greater jeopardy if they're no longer have the same kind of backup, same kind of support structure that they have over the last ten years or so. and again that's part of the argument. >> absolutely. no question. that's where folks like chuck hagel will say there's no way we're going to endanger the lives of troops, equipment, forced protection, that kind of thing overseas. >> appreciate the update. just ahead, a little boy's battle will to recover from the mysterious illness that's pair lie paralyzing some kids in california. plus a new twist in the amanda knox case. huh...fifteen minutes could
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a polio-like illness has infected as many as 20 kids in california. five confirmed cases were vaccinated against polio. it's left some kids paralyzed. one family has taken their story public to try to get the word
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out. cnn's stephanie elam joins me now. how did this all get started? >> reporter: anderson, it all started very quickly in september of 2012. both this little boy who was eight years old at the time and his older brother got sick with a respiratory infection. it seemed like a regular cold they thought. but it was different. take a listen to what they had to say. >> this happened on friday when he came back from school. thursday night he went for karate, no problem. symptoms with the flu and everything. coming back friday saying he couldn't raise the arm. he had a little bit of this. saturday he lost everything. that's when he got -- we took him to the hospital. >> reporter: and right after that they immediately took him to the hospital. he was in the icu for several days. they were trying to figure out what was wrong. they found out there was some inflammation around his spinal cord. but it was a very very quick turn of events. a very active boy playing sports when this all happened, anderson. >> his whole left arm was
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paralyzed. parents say he's making progress. how has he done that? >> reporter: his parents believe they have been really progressive on attacking this right away. by doing that this means a lot of physical therapy. so they are busy. he is constantly working on it. take a listen. >> what do you do during those three to four hours? >> i do a lot of fine motor skills. i go into the water every day. i work on the floor trying to lift up and down. >> what do you do in the water? >> since most of the gravity is taken off i try to get lift like from down all the way up. and from side. and i go with the physical therapist like three times a week. and that's what i do for about an hour. >> reporter: and that is really remarkable. because he could not move his arm at all from his shoulder to his fingerer tips. his parents saying it really
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started in his shoulders, went down to the finger tips then working its way back coming back and getting better. that's what's giving them hope. >> brave little boy. this illness has only hit the news the last couple of days. this family has been dealing with this for more than a year? >> reporter: for more than a year. talking about september 2012. the thing about it is they didn't really get this diagnosis it was probably this mystery illness until recently because before they thought it was an autoimmune illness which they now believe it is not. but what they are really concerned about is that the message out in the media for the last couple of days is that there is no hope. and they say they have hope and that's what's important to them. >> all right, stephanie, appreciate the update. thanks very much. joining me now is chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. you heard the boy describe what happened to him. are those symptoms common for the kids who seem to have this polio-like illness? >> well, it's worth pointing out that the vast majority of people who get an infection like this don't develop any symptoms at all. they don't develop any weakness or any of the sort of cold-like
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symptoms you just heard described there. but a small percentage do get this sort of weakness. and it usually comes on pretty suddenly. it can be a single limb at a time or much more systemic, much more the whole body. what is interesting to see, what stephanie just mentioned there as well, even with polio there were certain groups of people who did get better. they improved over time. it's been about a year and a half now since some of the first cases. see how that goes over the next several months, a year or so. see if there's gradual, continued improvement. >> what could this be? i know two of the patients have tested positive for entero virus 68? >> that's right. so two of the patients who got to the hospital pretty early got tested early did find this virus. this is the type of virus, polio is caused by a type of virus. they're very similar viruses. they come from a similar family of viruses. what happens with this type of virus is that it gets into the
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body and then in particularly severe cases it can start to surround the spinal cord and cause the symptoms again that you just heard there. again, it's rare. there's not concern that it's spreading from person-to-person. we've been following this for 18 months. it doesn't seem to be going within families, even, so the idea it's contagious doesn't seem to be there. but it does seem to be some sort of virus. they've only been able to find anytime two patients so far. >> and there's no vaccine for this kind of virus. what kind of treatments are there? >> there's not a vaccine. there's a vaccine for polio as you know but not for this particular virus. if it was more common, more cases they may develop a vaccine for it. as far as treatments go, unlike a bacterial infection for which you can take an antibiotics there isn't a specific anti-soon i h viral. if they've developed the upper respiratory cold-like symptoms you treat them for that. if they develop weakness you do
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the physical therapy as you just heard there. you can get some pretty good results. it takes time. sometimes the weakness will come and go, but the physical therapy can help in certain situations. >> obviously i don't want to freak out-patients. -- out parents. what should parents watch out for? >> it's interesting. part of the reason this got back in the news again this is going to be presented at a conference. one of the things they're trying to do is first of all get a message to doctors and parents that if you've seen something like this in your own community away from california, go to the hospital, get it checked out. maybe you'll find this particular virus and be able to start confirming these cases. but i think for other parents out there, if your child seems to have weakness that's just unusual, unexpected, one girl they were describing had weakness of her hand grip. that sort of thing you need to go get that checked out. you wouldn't blow that sort of thing off any way but certainly not in this case. >> sanjay, thanks. up next tonight amanda knox's ex-boyfriend and co-defendant has he started
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